I just had a prop bet cancelled (Gordon (Rockets) over 19 points). He played 29 minutes and scored 20. When I asked Bovada why this was flagged as no action, they said it was because Gordon did not start (which is true).
I assumed the "Participate" portion of their "Start/Participate" meant only that if the player did not enter the game was it no action. Otherwise the "Participate" is meaningless with "Start" listed. Is this the way most books handle basketball player props? I was already looking to move to a book other than Bovada (only off-shore options here), and appreciate anyone's thoughts on this. Thx.

I've been checking out review on SBG and BettingBrain: Currently eyeing GT Bets, Betonline.AG , Bookmaker
Created a 5Dimes account but the UI is so confusing and no player props for NBA.
Currently use Bovada and hate how they keep taking games out whenever injury news comes out for NBA.
Looking for a new book that's more fair in these terms. Don't need massive withdrawal limits or frequent withdrawals, credibility trumps both of these.
Player Props and Welcome bonuses are a plus but not necessary.
Edit: Thanks everyone for your input I moved off most of what I had on Bovada and settled on Intertops because the welcome bonus rollover was only 4x vs other places being 10x. Still hard to hit the bonus but at least within reach.

Hi all. I'm new to the sub, but I've been betting on Bovada for a while (didn't look into other options much until recently). I posted about this a little bit in another thread, but I wanted to do a writeup to warn people about changes that I've seen on Bovada. This is all from my observations and experiences, so take it with a grain of salt if you would like.
I've always liked doing live betting on tennis. There's so much to bet on, it's relatively easy to predict who is going to win the game(s), who has the momentum, and the nearly guaranteed bets (up 5-1 and serving next? I'll take that free pocket change on betting on the set win).
I took a break from betting after the Australian open, but the Mayweather-Mcgregor fight was too easy of a bet to pass up, so I got back into it and started placing bets on the US Open.
My Observations (live betting on tennis):
Before, the live betting was on point. It updated who was serving in the upcoming game immediately after the current game ended, it allowed you to bet on who would win the current game as well as the next game (if applicable), and it would keep showing the line, but it would "lock" bets if it was in the middle of a game or things of that sort.
Recently, however, I noticed that all of those things changed.
Instead of "locking" the bets to stop you from betting, the line disappears instead and the one below it takes it's place instantly. Sometimes it will flicker on and off. This has messed me up several times where I would start clicking on my pick for the game winner and it would instead slide the total games o/u into it's place. You've never been able to cancel a bet in progress even while it's still loading the placement of it (at least to my knowledge but please let me know if I'm wrong), so I've lost money on pretty much every occasion of this happening.
You used to be able to bet on the next game in addition to the current game. The realist in me figures it was too complicated for them to keep up with this. The cynic in me thinks they did this to prevent you from being able to bet ahead of time and force you to bet on the current game (which could combine with my previous note).
As far as who is serving, I never had a problem with that in the past. The next server was always updated after the current game. About half the time now, the true serving player of the game is not revealed until halfway through the game. I've placed a bet at (s)30-30 and ended up losing partly because it should have been 30-30(s). Sometimes you can tell based on the odds, but other times, it's difficult to tell based solely off that. I obviously can't blame it all on them since betting is win some-lose some regardless of the odds, but it's certainly more beneficial to be serving in a match, so it's more beneficial to me to know who is serving.
Maybe I'm being way too cynical about all this, but I'm pulling most of my money from there (went to a better site anyways). I'm leaving a little in there as fun money, but all my betting to actually try and make money will be used on another site. Bovada just seems too fishy now.
Edit: They are now going entire games without showing the score. When I messaged them about the problems I was seeing, they replied saying that "the scoreboard is for informational purposes only".

Below are some various 2019 NBA Draft prop bets. After the list I give my recommendations for best bets. Do y'all see any other good bets?

Prop Bet	Option 1	Option 2
How Many International Players Taken In The 1st Round	Over 2.5 (-120)	Under 2.5 (-120)
How Many Players Born In Canada Will Be Drafted In The First Round?	Over 4.5 (-120)	Under 4.5 (-120)
How Many Players Born In Canada Will Be Drafted?	Over 5.5 (+200)	Under 5.5 (-300)
How Many Trades Will Happen On Draft Day?	Over 12.5 (-120)	Under 12.5 (-120)
How Many Virginia Cavaliers Players Taken In The Draft?	Over 2.5 (+180)	Under 2.5 (-270)
How Many Freshman Taken In The 1st Round	Over 12.5 (-120)	Under 12.5 (-120)
Will Zion Williamson, RJ Barrett And Cam Reddish Be Drafted With The Top 10 Picks?	Yes (-1000)	No (+550)
...Top 5 Picks?	Yes (+450)	No (-850)
...Top 7 Picks?	Yes (+180)	No (-270)
Will The New York Knicks Fans Boo The Teams First Draft Pick?	Yes (+155)	No (-220)
Will The Pelicans Draft Zion Williamson And RJ Barrett?	Yes (+750)	No (-2000)

^{Odds per Bovada}
IMO, UVA players over 2.5 at +180 looks good. Hunter will be drafted for sure and I assume Jerome will be a late lottery pick. The X factor however is Kyle Guy but I think he will be drafted as well.
If o/u's are your thing, I also like the first bet at under 2.5 at -120. I only see Sekou Doumbouya and Goga Bitadze as 1st round foreign prospects. Plus I'm a shill for the Ringer's draft guide.
I would recommend the Duke trio bet for Top 7 (Yes +180) if I wasn't so unsure of the draft order's volatility past the top 3.

The All-Star Reserves have been named: https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/1/31/18206043/nba-all-star-rosters-reserves-russell-westbrook-blake-griffin
Who will be drafted last in the All-Star Draft?
Some points:

• LeBron gets first pick in the first round where him and Giannis go back and forth picking between the All-Star Starters
  
• Giannis gets first pick in the second round where they then select from the Reserves
  

From the 14 reserves, here are the ones that I think have no shot to be last pick:

• Anthony Davis
  
• Russell Westbrook
  
• Damian Lillard
  
• Nikola Jokic
  
• Blake Griffin
  

Here are the reserves who I believe have a very low chance of being last pick:

• Karl-Anthony Towns
  
• Klay Thompson
  
• Ben Simmons
  
• Bradley Beal
  
• Kyle Lowry
  

That leaves 4 players:

• Khris Middleton
  
• Victor Oladipo's replacement (expected to be Jimmy Butler or D'Angelo Russell)
  
• Nikola Vucevic
  
• LaMarcus Aldridge
  

Now let's take a closer look at the first 2 options:

• Khris Middleton is not listed as an option on the prop bet, but that's ok. Giannis is a captain and I see no way that he doesn't draft his teammate. I think he will take him pretty early in the second round. I don't see him as a threat to be last pick.
  
• Victor Oladipo's replacement is expected to be either Jimmy Butler or D'Angelo Russell. If it's Jimmy, I see no way he falls that far, as he's too good and well respected. If it's D'Angelo, I could see it. But I am not willing to bet on D'Angelo yet since he has not been named a Reserve. But keep it in mind in case he does and you can put some money on him at +600 to hedge on the following two picks:
  

That leaves:

• Nikola Vucevic: He's currently the favourite at +400. I believe he is a strong candidate to be picked last. Pretty much all of the players listed above him are sexier picks and most are better than him as well. This is an All-Star game after all and he just doesn't come off as a player who you would take earlier when there are better options available.
  
• LaMarcus Aldridge: my personal pick to be picked last (though I like the value on both him and Vucevic). At +800, this is absolutely great value, as his game is one of the least suited for the All-Star game. He's also not a sexy pick at all and Vucevic has had a better season than him which helps his chances of being picked last.
  

CONCLUSION:

• Vucevic (+400) and LaMarcus Aldridge (+800) are both great values to be picked LAST
  
• Keep an eye on who replaces Oladipo as D'Angelo Russell has value at +600 (though I think he's less likely to be picked last than the above 2)
  
• The reason you can get such good odds on these players is because Bovada still has options up there that were NOT named as Reserves: Rudy Gobert, Tobias Harris, and Mike Conley being the best examples. This is providing more value on guys like Vucevic and LMA to bet on.
  
• Pretty much the only way this loses is if D'Angelo gets in and is selected last (you can hedge if he gets in), or some other All-Star player gets injured between now and the draft (Feb 7) and has to be replaced by someone even less sexy than Vucevic/LMA
  

Would like to hear some thoughts on this
Edit: The NBA added a third round for legacy stars and Wade and Dirk have been selected. I'm not sure how this affects this prop, but my hope is that they change the bet to who will be picked last in the second round.

This is my for fun guide to betting the Blazers' Season Props. I do not claim to be an expert in any way on any of this. I only make relatively small bets because I find it enhances my viewing experience of the nba season. That said I've done my share of research, and I thought some of you may appreciate a Blazers focused betting discussion. These lines are taken from Bovada, since that is the site I just happen to use.

Bets

Over 42	Under 42
-135	+105

$20 on the over could get you $14.81.
As soon as this line opened a lot of people were calling this a fairly easy over, and the odds have shifted to reflect that somewhat. Blazers won 49 games last year and had the +/- of a 46 win team. Biggest offseason personnel changes came in our 2nd unit with the loss of Ed and Shabazz. Additionally, everyone agrees the West became harder with the addition of Lebron, the development of key young players on teams like Utah and Denver, and restored health on teams like Memphis and the Clippers. I don't think these will be enough to push the Blazers down to a 41 win team though. Lillard and CJ have been dependably healthy over the last several years, and I find it difficult to believe Lillard won't will this team to a 42 win season even if we are somehow falling apart. Though I don't think this is as easy of an over as last year's was, I think it is still one of the safer bets you can make.

Blazers Make Playoffs	Blazers Miss Playoffs
-105	-125

$20 on making the playoffs could get you $19.05.
Who makes and misses the playoffs in the west has been debated quite a bit this offseason. And for good reason. Lebron carried a less talented team to the 4 seed last year in the east, and it seems foolish to bet against the King getting the Lakers to at least the 8 seed. The Nuggets missed out by one game last year, despite Millsap only playing 35 games for them and Jamal Murray not consistently starting for them until halfway through the season. Who are your two teams to miss the playoffs? The Timberwolves? The Nuggets? The Spurs? The Blazers? Personally I'd be surprised if we didn't make the playoffs this year, but I'm a homer and I still recognize that this bet is pretty risky. Ultimately I ended up staying away from this one.

Damian Lillard MVP
+3500

$20 on a Lillard MVP could get you $700
Ok, hear me out on this one. No big "storylines" are building for someone else to win the MVP this year (see Westbrook and Harden's MVPs), and I think the winner this year will be someone new. Lillard finished 4th last year in MVP voting. He has improved every season he has been in the league. He was 4th last year in PPG. He always has a stretch of games where he destroys the league. I can conceivably see an outcome where that stretch of games lasts half the season and Lillard carries us to the 3rd seed. Also.. AD often gets injured, Kawhi is rusty, Steph/KD cannibalize each other, Lebron won't try this year, Harden just won and isn't good enough to win again, Westbrook sucks, Giannis' team isn't good enough. Personally, I put a 50 cent bet down on this for fun. Probably a waste of money, but my god if this happens that will be the sweetest $17 I ever earn in my life.

Damian Lillard PPG Leader
+1200

$20 on Lillard could get you $240
Harden won this by quite a bit last year with 30.4 ppg. AD was 2nd with 28.1 ppg, and Lillard was 4th with 26.9 ppg. I don't see Lillard's usage going up, or our pace changing significantly. His efficiency last year was also right around his career average. It would take a significant change for Lillard to pass Harden to take this award, especially since Houston's offense is specifically built for Harden to score a lot. Personally I avoided this one.

Blazers win Northwest Division
+650

$20 could get you $130
Though we are the Defending Champs, we are the predicted to finish last in our division sadly. It's possible we could surprise people again and defend our title, but I think the odds would have to be better for this to be a good bet. Personally I avoided this one.

Blazers win Western Conference
+7500

$20 could get you $1500
Everyone can dream right? Honestly though, if you are going to put money on this, you might as well go all the way. Personally I avoided this one.

Blazers win it all
+15000

$20 could get you $3000
NOW we're talking! Though seeing as how the Blazers have lost the last 10 playoffs games in a row, this is probably a foolish bet. And without wing depth, we don't match up well against many of the teams that make deep runs in the playoffs. But WHO KNOWS WHAT COULD HAPPEN?!? Personally I avoided this one.
So that is my breakdown of the Blazer's Season Props for the year. Blazer's oveunder has got to be the best bet on the board, but still isn't a surefire thing. So as a bonus, here is my personal favorite bet for the upcoming nba season.

Jazz win Northwest Division
+220

$20 could get you $44.
After starting 17-26 for the first half of last year, the Jazz finished with a 48-34 record. During their run they strengthened their bench through trades, they got Gobert back after he missed a ton of games, and Mitchell made his case for RotY. Though I doubt they keep up they crazy pace they were on during the second half of last year, I think they are a lock for winning the NW division, especially at +220 odds. Many people are picking them to finish 3rd (or even 2nd) in the west. Their main competition in the division is considered to be OKC, who just found out Robertson will be out til December and Westbrook will miss the first chunk of games with a lingering injury. The Timberwolves are a dumpster fire, and both the Nuggets and the Blazers like to lose games they should win. On top of this, the Jazz have the 2nd best homecourt advantage in the league via altitude. They are also 4-0 in the preseason, if that means anything to you. If the Jazz make the leap most people think they will, I think this is a great bet at +220.

Update at 11:00 A.M. EST: Vegas has released more player props then when I wrote this originally. Everything in the body of this still holds true. I would add the following comments:
Vegas likes the big three Falcons (Ryan, Freeman and Jones) to have good games;
If you're looking for a QB/WR hookup with big play potential, Vegas is leaning towards Brees/Cooks. If you look at the o/u prop for longest touchdown in that game it is set at 42.5 yards. There is a separate bet on which team will score the longest TD in the game. The Saints are the heavy favorites at -150. Cooks is an even money bet to score a TD in that game. Putting that all together (and it's like reading tea leaves) I think Vegas is implying that Cooks may bust another long TD. Cooks has the highest receiving yardage prop of any Saints WR, and is the only predicted to go over the receiving yardage and catch props for New Orleans. If you're going to throw a dart in a gpp, I'd go with Cooks. Brees o/u on yardage has been bet up 14 yards since Friday and is higher than the total amount of passing yards the Broncos have given up in any game this year. You almost never see that.
I've received a lot of questions/comments about my other posts and I've tried answering them all, but I'm sure I always leave something out (unintentionally). I see some things in the way the lines have moved from earlier this week to this morning, that I think can help answer the questions/comments in a more practical way than I generally can explain them. This is the link for where I look at the lines, there are other places, this is just easiest for me. If you decide to follow this kind of stuff, and you find another site that is easier for you to use, you should use that. https://www.sportsinsights.com/free-nfl-odds/
-----When one side of a line is being heavily bet the line should move towards that side.
This morning there are two great examples of what, for lack of a better word, is "normal"
The Cardinals opened as -12.5 point home favorites against the 49ers. Currently, 63% of the bets on the point spread have been on the Cardinals. The line has now moved to the Cardinals being favored by -14 points. That makes sense. If you want to bet the Cardinals, and most people do, you have to give more points to get them. That's how Vegas essentially tries to balance out these lines.
There's a second good example of this involving an oveunder this week. The o/u in the Broncos/Saints opened at 47. 77% of the bets have been on the over and the over now sits at 50. That makes sense. A bunch of people want to bet on the over, so now in order to try and balance the wagers (I know it's actually more complicated than this, but this is essentially what's going on) Vegas is moving the number higher to try and encourage more people to take the under.
------ When Stuff gets "Weird" there's usually a reason.
In the blog link I posted earlier in the week I mentioned that I thought some weird stuff was going on with the Texans/Jags game. I'm got going to regurgitate it here, but if this interests you, you should go read it.
However, there's another game with a similar thing going on. in the Bengals/Giants game, the Giants opened as -3 point favorites. 56% of the bets on the spread have been on the Giants. All things being equal I would guess that the line would not move at all or perhaps move .5 towards the Giants. But the complete opposite of that has occurred, the line is now Bengals -1. Why? Let me introduce you to the concept of the "Sharps" These are the guys who bet for a living. These are referred to as "the guys who know" by some. And I, who have been paying attention to this stuff all year have come to a conclusion about "the guys who know": They really do know some things. When a line swings so substantially against the betting patterns it's because the side of the bet getting less of the total percentage of bets is getting the heavier volume/weight of the bets. The Jags/Texans game is a perfect example of the the Sharps basically saying the general public is being stupid. The Bengals/Giants game to me is giving off the same vibe.
What does this mean for DFS purposes? I think the Jags Defense is a great play. Brock Osweiler on the road is essentially fantasy goodness for the opposing team and while the general public may look at the Jags as a shitty team (which they are), the "sharps" are looking at it as "Osweiler on the road is a liability, we will gladly give you less than a field goal. Thank you in advance for the money" Again, this is my interpretation of what the betting patterns say. I got no independent clue as to what will happen, and I was planning to largely fade this game anyway. I would mention that the o/u on passing yards for Osweiler is 215.5. The o/u on Osweiler TD passes is 1.5 with -125 on the under. https://sports.bovada.lv/football/nfl/qb-props-market-group These player prop bets are ridiculously low for a non-running threat QB. Make of it what you will.
-----The Sunday Night Hammer Theory
While it's more prevalent in MLB and NBA, I know a lot of people like the idea of playing guys in the last game of a slate and refer to it as a "Hammer" The Vegas lines on the Sunday night Seahawks/Pats game make me think there might be a couple of hammers in that game.
The spread opened with the Pats -7.5 favorites. 71% of the action has been on the Pats (that means taking the points) and the line has not moved. The o/u opened at 48 and with 60% of the action on the over, it's moved one point up to 49. My thinking is that the "Sharps" are loading up on the Seahawks, and since Seattle cannot run, and is playing on the road as a touchdown dog, the "Sharps" kind of like Wilson and the Seahawks passing game to put up some points and keep this thing closer than the betting public does. Given how the o/u has gone up with the majority of the bets, I'm guessing the "Sharps" think the 48 number is pretty accurate but that it's likely to go over.
Fun factoid: you know who loves to gamble and always gives a shout out to his degenerate faithful? Al Michaels. He loves to mention gambling phrases especially towards the end of games when certain things happen. For instance he will use the word "over" several times in different contexts after a game hits the "over" of the Vegas line. If it's a Field Goal that puts it "over" he'll make a comment like "and the Field Goal is up and over for the..." If there's a late score in a game by a team that is favored to "cover" the spread, he'll often times say something similar to: "Well, that just about covers it folks, the game is pretty much over"
Good luck

Looking for individual player props of

• Points (P)
• Rebounds (R)
• Assists (A)
• PRA
• PR
• PA

Curious about BetOnline with the build-able player props, but the selection of players is limited.
A few other tidbits:

• I'm in the US.
• I'd prefer a book that is slow with placing limits
• I'd prefer a book where all the player props are fairly accessible on the same page (similar to how Bovada does it here: https://sports.bovada.lv/basketball/nba/player-props-market-group)
• And of course a book that doesn't have a history of being difficult to work with

Perspective from an amateur NBA and NFL bettor. Previously used Bovada.
The Good

• Withdrawing and depositing is really easy. Practically no minimum deposit (there is one, but it's something really small).
• Lines are up as early as possible.
• Lines aren't altered as much as Bovada. The same lines you see on your favorite sports site will be the line on Nitrogen.
• Lines don't get disabled or removed very often. Bovada has a quick trigger when it comes to stuff like this, and it's incredibly frustrating.
• You can pick +/- 1.5 pt on each line. So if a line is -3, you will have the option of taking -1.5, -2, -2.5, -3, -3.5, -4, or -4.5. And its all in a really convenient dropdown, so you don't have to go to another page.
• The picks in your bet slip are remembered by your account. So if you change devices or leave for whatever reason, your bet slip is still there (seems pretty basic, but for some reason Bovada doesn't do this).
• Two-way teases. So you can tease the line for away and home team together.
• The point options for teases are available for all teases. I know Bovada switches up the point options depending on how many picks you have.

The Bad

• You can't parlay the point spread and the O/U of the same game.
• Can only tease four teams. Doing more than four teams may be stupid, but you should at least have the option
• If you want to buy points but also tease, you have to make a new bet slip. You buy points before you add a pick to your bet slip, but you can't tease a pick that has an altered line, of course. So unless you add the original line, you cant tease. It would be nice if they did what Bovada does, which is have alternate line options in the bet slip.
• Making a wager can be irritating. If there is a slight change in the line, or sometimes even randomly, it will stop you from making the wager. Sometimes it's not clear which line in your bet slip is causing the error, so you have to remove all the picks, refresh your page, and re-add the picks. It's not that big a deal, but it's irritating.
• The picks you have chosen aren't highlighted. And you can't remove them by simply clicking them again. This doesn't seem like it should be that big a deal, but it's really inconvenient, especially on mobile. Scrolling up and down is annoying (the bet slip on mobile isn't a modal dialog, it just stays at the top of the page).
• You can't retain your selections after you've placed a bet. Once you've make a bet, your bet slip is cleared.

The Awful

• Ties lose on ALL teasers. Absolutely horrific.
• Live betting is poor. I haven't even been able to place 2nd half bets.
• Player props suck. Pretty much non-existent.
• Payouts for some teases are bad, relative to Bovada. For example a three team, 7 pt tease on basketball pays out 1.830 on Nitrogen. But a three team, 8 pt tease on Bovada pays out 1.909.
• This one really pisses me off. Say you are ready to make a tease. You've selected your picks, your point option, and clicked to make your wager. But for whatever reason, there is an error. Like I stated in the previous section, sometimes you have to refresh your page. Well when you refresh your page, Nitrogen now highlights that you want to parlay instead of tease! So if you aren't paying attention, you could possibly make a monumental error. This happened to me once. I thought it was my fault and didn't realize that Nitrogen does this automatically until I almost made the same mistake again a couple of days later.

Wrap-up
Judging from the comments at /sportsbook, you would think, like I did, that Nitrogen is amazing. But overall, I would say it's just okay. If all you want to do is deposit, bet the lines, and withdraw, then you can't get any better (ignoring the bad UX). But if you enjoy doing anything else and only want to use one sportsbook, then I would suggest staying away.
But that's probably not the way to go. Different sportsbooks are good at different things. So use Nitrogen's best features--fast, accurate lines and instant withdrawals--with the best features of another sportsbook. Hope this was helpful.

Bovada just sent me an email saying they noticed non-recreational betting limits from my account and limited my wager to $1! I dont understand how anyone can bet with that. I am going to leave Bovada but am looking for another betting site. I mainly bet on player props and games from NHL and NBA.
Any recommendations?

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Edit: Vegas props are mostly up: https://sports.bovada.lv/basketball/nba/player-props-market-group
Using the Vegas Lines and Player Prop bets can be helpful in NBA DFS, sometimes even more helpful than in the NFL. Obviously small slate for today and I haven't seen any player props released, but here's a shot at trying to figure out what the lines are saying so far. As always you can find the various lines here: https://www.sportsinsights.com/free-nba-odds/ The player prop bets should start posting on Bovada around 4 pm EST for the early game, and somewhat later, but before 7, for the late games.
The most interesting line movement looks like the o/u in the Portland/Utah game. The game opened with a total of 194 and is currently sitting at 192 or 192.5. This is despite the fact that 71% of the bets have been on the over. This tells me that the sharps are more heavily betting the under. The Line on this game has also moved from Portland -5.5 to Portland -6.5. With this game being the lowest o/u (by far) if you're going to fade one of the games, this might be the one. (Obviously punt plays are punt plays so you use what you need. I'd look at the player props for Lillard/McCollum when they come out and compare them to Curry/Irving before making lineups if you really like them to see what Vegas thinks)
The WarrioSpurs opened at 210.5 and has moved up to between 211 and 212, with 67% of the action on the over. I would check out the player props on this and make sure you compare Durant and Leonard with James and Anthony in the Knicks/Cav game. The individual props will be something like "Total Points, Rebounds and Assists" and then some individual props for "Rebounds and Assists"
Finally, the Knicks/Cav game opened at 205.5 and sits essentially at that or 206. The spread opened at Cleveland -9.5 and essentially sits there. When the player props get released, I would look at and compare the Porzingis/Love numbers with Gasol/Aldridge/Green in the Spurs/Warriors. Those guys are roughly similarly priced on DK/FD so if there are any big differences in the Vegas prop bets, you could consider that some "value" between those guys.
Good luck.

Just got back from the Packer game and naturally I don't want to write about physics. There was a recent thread about bets you made with your buddy, so here are some interesting bets you can actually place right now at Bovada Consider this a Bill Simmonsesque post. You would be a fool to actually place wagers based on what I write.
MVP Demar Derozan 250:1 Very unlikely but holy shit if it actually happened. Talk about hitting the lottery.
MVP Anthony Davis 25:1 Hard to find better value than this if you're trying to get "rich" quick. Injuries and the two best basketball players on the planet being healthy make this unlikely but he could sneak in an MVP award if he improves at the rate he has, D-Rose style
...but the smart money is on Lebron James 3:2. Sure it isn't a huge payout, but Lebron is the best basketball player in the world. Playing on a new team and not winning MVP last year, Lebron does not have voter fatigue working against him. He is likely to get credit for any success Cleveland has. He will also have to take the fall if things go wrong, but that is an unlikely situation.
Rookie of the Year: Adreian Payne 50:1 likely high minutes, four years of college bball, Payne is a huge sleeper in this draft despite showing more pg skills than Exum or Lavine. If he can score points (the assists will be there) Payne could make you big money. He's 50:1 for a reason tho, he could also easily average 3 pts 2 assists and not a lot of minutes
ROY Doug McDermott: 12:1 Why wouldn't you bet on "the most nba ready player" in this draft? Doug McBuckets was created to do one thing. Score buckets. Unfortunately his lack of ability to do much else will likely keep him a long shot, unless Parker and Wiggins don't do much. If you don't believe in Parker or Wiggins then by all means put your money in McDermott. He's right up there for ROY.
...but the smart money is on Jabari Parker 3:1. Already compared to Carmelo Anthony, Jabari can score from anywhere on the court seemingly at will. He is inheriting a Bucks roster that has no lead dog. Make no mistake about it, Parker will be the number one scoring option for the Bucks. Can you say the same thing about Wiggins? Randle? McDermott? While Jabari's defense may be a weakness in the long wrong, I don't see it impacting his ROY candidacy. If this last year has taught us anything, it's that you don't have to be a hero to win ROY.
Team Championship Odds
11:2 Chicago Bulls, OKC Thunder Take your pick. Do you believe in KD, the reigning MVP and most dangerous player with a basketball on the planet or the defensive intensity of the Bulls and the revival of their superstar point guard? Personally, I think OKC is the better team but that's not how you bet. Chicago has a much easier road to the finals but it would be foolish to pick Chicago without a 80% of what they used to have or better Derrick Rose. I like OKC of the two but they both aren't bad bets.
GSW 25:1 I know, I know. You can't win a finals with just three point shooting. Still, if the Warriors got hot at the right time they could do some serious damage. If they get lucky in the first round and turn it on in the second round, they could be in the Finals. I personally am not a huge fan of this team, but I see the appeal of betting on them.
PHX 100:1 Maybe Bledsoe is worth what he says he is. Put $10 down and spend the grand on Keystone on McDonald's if you're right
...but the smart money is on SAS 4:1. While Cleveland has the better odds at 5:2, it is really hard to bet against the Spurs. Sure they have never repeated titles, but aren't they always defying expectations? Are you expecting them to drop off due to age? Sure Duncan and Ginobli are old but Parker sure as hell isn't. And god damn don't we all love us some Kawhi? He's a year older (more experienced) and so are Patty Mills and Danny Green. The Heatles took awhile to get going and I see the same thing happening to Lebron this year.
Edit: I feel like I post here enough to not have to say it but I just want to say I am in no way trying to promote Bovada. It is just the "bookie" I prefer to use. Lots of great other ones out there. Also would anyone be interested in a daily thread discussing the lines once the season gets under way? I never see any posts about betting here.

I know lots of analysis and help in determining players goes into O/U and the spread, but does anybody use or know of any system that does use player prop bets as well?
For instance, Bovada has some player prop bets here and you could look at them to try to pick out what Vegas thinks Love vs. Aldridge vs. Davis will end up looking like.
I currently don't use them but I just thought it was something interesting and could be used for help.

http://sports.bovada.lv/sports-betting/nba-player-props.jsp
According to Vegas, Reggie is gone!